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Opened 13 years ago

Closed 12 years ago

#212 closed defect (invalid)

Dipole subtraction and VBF+1 jet

Reported by: Generic User (don't modify these fields) Owned by: Steffen Schumann
Priority: critical Milestone: rel-1.4.0
Component: Unknown Version: 1.3.1
Keywords: Cc:

Description

I have tried generating dipole subtractions terms for the process 93 93 -> 93 93 93 25 with Order_EW=3. (This would be VBF Higgs boson production plus an additional jet in the final state.) However, SHERPA seems to sit for quite some time. In fact it doesn't seem to do anything. The color structures associated with this process are quite simple. I expect there to be on the order of 30 dipole factors that are subtracted. Is there someway to run SHERPA in debug mode?

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Run_H.dat (851 bytes) - added by Generic User (don't modify these fields) 13 years ago.
unvalid_colorflows_AME.patch (2.9 KB) - added by Steffen Schumann 12 years ago.

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Changed 13 years ago by Generic User (don't modify these fields)

Attachment: Run_H.dat added

comment:1 Changed 13 years ago by marek

Milestone: rel-2.0.0
Owner: changed from marek to Steffen Schumann
Type: questiondefect

Hi Steffen,

I am afraid this is more your area of expertise. What happens is that it tries to calculate the colour structures for the colour-correlated Born processes underlying both the differential and integrated subtraction terms. In CFColor::BuildTChain in runs into an infinite loop as the last if-statement in l. 577 (if (tmp_list[0][4]==tmp_list[tmp_list.size()-1][6])) is never satisfied, and thus no break statement is hit. The output there tmp_list[0][4]=m vs. tmp_list[tmp_list.size()-1][6]=n. These indices then do not get modified further, thus the infinite loop. Any ideas?

Marek

comment:2 Changed 13 years ago by Steffen Schumann

Status: newassigned

comment:3 Changed 12 years ago by Frank Siegert

The same infinite loop happens also in this simple setup:

(run){
  BEAM_1 = 2212; BEAM_ENERGY_1 = 4000;
  BEAM_2 = 2212; BEAM_ENERGY_2 = 4000;
  NLO_Mode 1
  ME_SIGNAL_GENERATOR=Amegic
}(run)

(processes){
  Process 1 1 -> 1 1
  NLO_QCD_Part I
  End process;
}(processes)

(selector){
  PT 1 20.0 E_CMS
}(selector)

Note that it only happens here if Order_EW is left unrestricted. For both Order_EW=0 and Order_EW=2 it does not happen.

Last edited 12 years ago by Frank Siegert (previous) (diff)

Changed 12 years ago by Steffen Schumann

comment:4 in reply to:  3 Changed 12 years ago by Steffen Schumann

Resolution: fixed
Status: assignedclosed

The problem seems resolved by the patch I sent around and attach here again.

Replying to fsiegert:

The same infinite loop happens also in this simple setup:

(run){
  BEAM_1 = 2212; BEAM_ENERGY_1 = 4000;
  BEAM_2 = 2212; BEAM_ENERGY_2 = 4000;
  NLO_Mode 1
  ME_SIGNAL_GENERATOR=Amegic
}(run)

(processes){
  Process 1 1 -> 1 1
  NLO_QCD_Part I
  End process;
}(processes)

(selector){
  PT 1 20.0 E_CMS
}(selector)

Note that it only happens here if Order_EW is left unrestricted. For both Order_EW=0 and Order_EW=2 it does not happen.

comment:5 Changed 12 years ago by Stefan Hoeche

Priority: minorcritical
Resolution: fixed
Status: closedreopened

This fix breaks the RS integration in pp->tt~. The cross section for the setup below should be ~1500 pb (computed with r20291), but it comes out as ~3000 pb (computed with r20310). This finding is confirmed with current MC@NLO, which gives a mu_Q independent prediction as long as mu_Q<350GeV. As far as I can tell from checking the MC@NLO at mu_Q>350GeV the problem lies in the IF dipoles.

(run){
  EVENTS 10000;
  FRAGMENTATION Off;
}(run);

(beam){
  BEAM_1 2212; BEAM_ENERGY_1 4000;
  BEAM_2 2212; BEAM_ENERGY_2 4000;
}(beam);

(processes){
  Process 93 93 -> 6 -6;
  NLO_QCD_Part RS;
  Order_EW 0;
  End process;
}(processes);

(me){
  SCALES VAR{sqr(91.25)}{sqr(91.25)}
  ME_SIGNAL_GENERATOR Amegic;
  EVENT_GENERATION_MODE W;
}(me)

comment:6 Changed 12 years ago by Stefan Hoeche

Resolution: invalid
Status: reopenedclosed

It turns out that the result depends on how the libraries are generated. NLO_Mode 1 and 3 generate different libs (mode 3 generates more / larger libs) and therefore integration results differ slightly. More important though, the initial integration performance is bad, and this leads to the discrepancy, depending on initial conditions. Moving this issue to http://sherpa.hepforge.org/privatetrac/ticket/28

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