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Opened 13 years ago

Closed 13 years ago

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#119 closed defect (fixed)

Massive initial states in ISR lead to faulty kinematics

Reported by: Frank Siegert Owned by: Stefan Hoeche
Priority: major Milestone:
Component: Unknown Version: 1.2.3
Keywords: Cc: Steffen Schumann

Description

The following Run.dat contains massive c-quarks in the initial state:

(run){
  BEAM_1=2212; BEAM_ENERGY_1=3500;
  BEAM_2=2212; BEAM_ENERGY_2=3500;
  ME_SIGNAL_GENERATOR   = Comix
  MASSIVE[4]=1
}(run)

(selector){
  Mass 11 -11 60 7000
}(selector)

(processes){
  Process :  4  -4 -> 11  -11
  Order_EW : 2
  End process
}(processes)

During integration this gives errors of the type

SF::CalculateWeight : x out of bounds 4.21123e-08 at 8327.28, xrange = 1e-06 ... 1

which are caused by the fact that the s' passed to the ISR handler is larger than s. So it seems like the ISR channels are doing something wrong.

Attachments (1)

heavy-isr.patch (1.3 KB) - added by Frank Siegert 13 years ago.

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Change History (12)

comment:1 Changed 13 years ago by Stefan Hoeche

Resolution: fixed
Status: newclosed
Version: 0.trunk1.2.3

Tentatively fixed in r16357.

Changed 13 years ago by Frank Siegert

Attachment: heavy-isr.patch added

comment:2 Changed 13 years ago by Frank Siegert

Patch attached, apply it with

  cd SHERPA-MC-1.2.3
  patch -p0 < heavy-isr.patch
  make install

comment:3 Changed 13 years ago by Frank Siegert

One probably minor problem remains: A few % of events from processes of the kind

Process 5 93 -> 5 93;
Order_EW 0;
End process;

are rejected due to a slight violation of momentum conservation:

Blob_List::FourMomentumConservation(): (0x83dcacc) Four Momentum is not conserved.
   p_{in} = (1960,0,0,0) vs. p_{out} = (1959.85,-0.0431269,-0.00352041,-0.149026).

comment:4 Changed 13 years ago by Frank Siegert

Resolution: fixed
Status: closedreopened

comment:5 Changed 13 years ago by Frank Siegert

There is one more related problem that I have just encountered, namely with a setup as follows:

(run){
  BEAM_1=2212; BEAM_ENERGY_1=3500;
  BEAM_2=2212; BEAM_ENERGY_2=3500;
  ME_SIGNAL_GENERATOR   = Comix
  MASSIVE[5]=1
}(run)

(selector){
  ET 5 20.0 E_CMS
  ET -5 20.0 E_CMS
  Energy 5 20.0 E_CMS
  Energy -5 20.0 E_CMS
  PseudoRapidity 5 -5.0 5.0
  PseudoRapidity -5 -5.0 5.0
  DeltaR 5 93 0.4 20.0
  DeltaR -5 93 0.4 20.0

  METS sqr(30/E_CMS)
}(selector)

(processes){
  Process :  5 -5 -> 5 -5 93
  End process
}(processes)

During integration this produces floods of

Channel_Basics::SqLam argument nan <0 in Channel_Basics::sqlam()
s;s1;s2: nan;23.04;23.04
Phase_Space_Handler::Check4Momentum(): {
  p_0 = (3107.09913038,0,0,3107.09542274) (23.0399999999)
  p_1 = (6.14243279152,0,0,3.83268582046) (23.04)
  p_2 = (nan,nan,nan,nan) (nan)
  p_3 = (nan,nan,nan,nan) (nan)
  p_4 = (nan,nan,nan,nan) (nan)
  p_in  = (3113.24156317,0,0,3110.92810856) (14399.3340308)
  p_out = (nan,nan,nan,nan) (nan)
  diff  = (nan,nan,nan,nan) (nan)
}
Channel_Basics::SqLam argument nan <0 in Channel_Basics::sqlam()
s;s1;s2: nan;nan;nan
Channel_Basics::SqLam argument nan <0 in Channel_Basics::sqlam()
s;s1;s2: nan;nan;nan
Channel_Basics::SqLam argument nan <0 in Channel_Basics::sqlam()
s;s1;s2: nan;nan;nan
Channel_Basics::SqLam argument nan <0 in Channel_Basics::sqlam()
s;s1;s2: nan;nan;nan
Channel_Basics::SqLam argument nan <0 in Channel_Basics::sqlam()
s;s1;s2: nan;nan;nan
Channel_Basics::SqLam argument nan <0 in Channel_Basics::sqlam()
s;s1;s2: nan;nan;23.04
Channel_Basics::SqLam argument nan <0 in Channel_Basics::sqlam()
s;s1;s2: nan;nan;nan
TChannelWeight produces a nan!
  ...

They go away if I set MASS[5]=0.01.

comment:6 Changed 13 years ago by Stefan Hoeche

Resolution: fixed
Status: reopenedclosed

This problem is related to the setup of the phase space recursion in Comix. It should be fixed on trunk r16667.

comment:7 Changed 13 years ago by Frank Siegert

Resolution: fixed
Status: closedreopened

Sorry, have to reopen: Integration works fine now, thanks. But during event generation with the run card from 07/02 I get loads of warnings like this:

        CS_Cluster_Definitions::CoreScale(): Momentum not conserved.
        \sum p = (-0.00142853,0,0,0.000240675) in
        (0x82531b0): 2 -> 2 {
          \mu_r = 56.1525, \mu_f = 67.8773, \mu = 1122.68
          k_T = 1022.81, z = 0, phi = 0, kin = 0
          oew = 2, oqcd = 2, nlo = 0, new = (<no entry>)
                 (0,4)          bb (-1646.15,0,0,-1646.14) (0,5945) [0|0,0] <-> (1)
                   (1)           b (-2313.2,0,0,2313.2) (5945,0) [1|0,0]
                   (2)           b (1742.33,825.895,-1094.24,1075.27) (5946,0) [1|0,0]
                   (3)          bb (2217.03,-825.895,1094.24,-1742.33) (0,5946) [1|0,0]
        }

comment:8 Changed 13 years ago by Stefan Hoeche

Resolution: fixed
Status: reopenedclosed

This problem is fixed on trunk r16785.

comment:9 Changed 13 years ago by Frank Siegert

Cc: Steffen Schumann added
Resolution: fixed
Status: closedreopened

Sorry, have to reopen this one. Using the following run card,

(run){
  EVENTS=100
  FRAGMENTATION=Off

  MASSIVE[5] 1;
  BEAM_1 =  2212; BEAM_ENERGY_1 = 3500;
  BEAM_2 =  2212; BEAM_ENERGY_2 = 3500;
}(run)

(processes){
  Process 5 -5 -> 11 -11 93 93
  Order_EW 2; Max_N_Quarks 6
  End process;
}(processes)

(selector){
  Mass 11 -11 66 116
  METS sqr(20/E_CMS)
}(selector)

leads to the following error in Comix' PS although I would have expected that the METS cut should take care of all divergences (the cross section also doesn't look very divergent):

TChannelWeight: bad momenta!!!! -1 - 1 (1)
1: (121.556,0,0,121.461)
2: (121.556,0,0,-121.461)
3: (6.60519,0,0,6.60519)
4: (236.506,0,0,-6.60519)
0.679074 pb +- ( 0.3399 pb = 50.0535 % ) 5000 ( 10827 -> 46.1 % )
full optimization:  ( 2s elapsed / 2m 59s left )   
Sherpa: PS_Channel::GenerateChannel throws fatal error: 
   No vertex in z mode 0

comment:10 Changed 13 years ago by Stefan Hoeche

Resolution: fixed
Status: reopenedclosed

A minor modification of the selector section should do the trick here:

  PT 93 1 E_CMS

The cross section itself is not divergent in this process (due to the massive b quarks), and the METS finder takes this into account. But the PS channels are divergent, leading to invalid results in the multi-channel. This is cured by the small p_T cut.

comment:11 Changed 10 years ago by Stefan Hoeche

Milestone: rel-1.3.0

Milestone rel-1.3.0 deleted

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