Opened 16 years ago
Last modified 11 years ago
#18 closed defect
Cross sections with cut lines vs. inclusive do not agree — at Version 3
Reported by: | Frank Siegert | Owned by: | Frank Siegert |
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Priority: | critical | Milestone: | |
Component: | Unknown | Version: | 1.1.2 |
Keywords: | Cc: | w.j.murray@rl.ac.uk, frank.krauss@durham.ac.uk |
Description (last modified by )
Bill Murray looks at three runs:
- "inclusive" process pp -> gamma b bbar
- "background" process pp -> gamma b bbar (with Z disabled as particle)
- "signal" process pp -> gamma Z[b bbar].
Looking at the b bbar mass around the Z mass he sees a discrepancy between run 1 and the sum of run 2 + run 3 (the former shows a higher peak above the background by about a factor of 2).
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Thanks for sending me your setup files, I have tried to reformulate the problem description in light of these, hopefully correct this time?
Some remarks:
- Since your final state is not one to apply CKKW merging on, you should switch it off. To do that, set "SUDAKOV_WEIGHT=0" and "SCALE_SCHEME=G_MEAN_PT2" (or whatever you think appropriate) in the (me) section.
- In your "no Z" run 2 you are missing lots of diagrams from the "inclusive" run 1, on top of the ones that you are using in the "forced Z" run 3. Some of these are s-channel types, which one can try to include in run 3 (or observe that their cross section is low), but there are also t-channel ones, which might have an impact. That makes it unclear to me whether the sum of 2 and 3 should really coincide with 1.
- I can't judge which interference effects might appear here between the diagrams in run 1 that you are separating in run 2 and 3?
- (PS: If you set EVENT_GENERATION_MODE=Weighted you get cross-section normalised histograms automatically.)
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The factor 3 reported above was not found from putting the higgs mass to 400 GeV (although I did try that, I saw H to ZZ to mumubb which confused the issue)
discrepancy. So I think this is a different probblem.